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ArtMater
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Amazing watercolor, impossible to find in USA anymore. :-(
http://www.holbein-works.co.jp/english/0419.html -
The best site ever!!!!!
http://www.jetpens.com/ -
Nuria
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Posted 2 years ago # -
http://www.utrechtart.com/dsp_view_product.cfm?item=34175
cheaper Rotring -
andrew spanoudakis
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Posted 2 years ago #Hi there..I finally logged into the forum... Thanks for the web site suggestions.
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Rembrandt Talens Watercolor:
http://www.saa.co.uk/artmaterials/royal-talens-rembrandt-half-pans-3534.html -
Nuria
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Nuria
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andrew spanoudakis
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Posted 2 years ago #http://www.utrechtart.com/ -- I like them because they are close to my house
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A while ago I ordered some (plenty) of brushes from Rosemary:
http://www.rosemaryandco.com/ (you can browse this well organised site and/or order a free catalogue - my favourite bed-time literature)
They arrived yesterday and last night I had a chance to test them. In a word: THEY ARE EXCELLENT!!!
This is what an independent review says: http://www.handprint.com/HP/WCL/brush3a.html
Mr Bruce MacEvoy is behind (one of) the best sources of watercolours brands, techniques, tests, etc.
In my view, his review doesn't even give them a justice! They are excellent in terms of snap, spring, needlepoint tip, razor sharp edges, comfy handles and you name it...
Most interesting of all, she (Rosemary) offers by far the widest range of high quality pocket/reversible brushes (11 different brushes, and now I got them all + 4 small ones in the section of New&Different).
Last, but not least, the prices are much more affordable than those of other quality brush-makers (say da Vinci), and for those out of EU there is automatic VAT deduction (about 15%). Those in the EU should not be saddened by this, since the Pound is nearly record low to Euro, at the moment - just make sure you place an order in Pounds (since site's exchange rate seems a bit outdated).
The only "loosers" here are UK folks (no discounts), but then again, they can be proud to have such fine homeland brush production. -
Nuria
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marena321
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Marty Harris's Technique.
A work in progress. Here’s a technique I have enjoyed lately. It speeds up the process, helping me to keep up with the demands of moly_x.1) I place a photo in Adobe Illustrator, and make it transparent, about 50%. Sometimes I cut images apart and change the layout in Photoshop.
2) I trace over it, still in Adobe Illustrator. I can make a quick template to match the size of the book, so I can put things where I want them. I try not to put important stuff on the fold.
3) The drawing and the photo are on different layers, so I can turn off the photo if I wish. Look at the other image with my wife and I. I left the photo show a bit. I also used sepia colored lines, because I’m going to use sepia ink.
4) I print the image on Moleskine Cahier paper using my inkjet. Here is where I wish that Moleskine offered Large format paper, even tabloid size. My printer can handle 13″x19″. I have to piece larger images together.
I have grown to like the collage look of this technique. I like the visual distraction/interest. The papers have a different texture, so the ink takes to them differently. I like this too.
I use Super 77 spray adhesive. It’s a little hard to work with, but it doesn’t budge once it’s down. You can see the seams very clearly in these images:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/mrtyhrrs/4196137419/in/ set-72157603…
http://www.flickr.com/photos/mrtyhrrs/3532999471/siz es/o/in/set-…
http://www.flickr.com/photos/mrtyhrrs/4207299692/siz es/o/in/set-…
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CommentsRudat 12:07 pm on January 24, 2010 | #
Hey Marty, I like this technique, and your flickr photos are a great reference. Your finals image have a refreshing spontaneity to them. Years ago in art school, a fashion illustration teacher told us the human body should be drawn more elongated than real life. Of course these were fashion drawings, and your people don’t have that short, squat look from being traced from a photo. Kudos to your cool art, Marty! This is inspiring.Rudat 12:08 pm on January 24, 2010 | #
A 13″x19″ printer!!! You lucky guy!j. stremikis 8:06 pm on January 24, 2010 | #
Hey, Marty,
this is a great posting - the techniques development stuff is very inspiring, and makes me feel like doing this is far more “approachable” and something I’ll want
to try for myself.
in step 4), you mention that you wish Moleskine offered a larger format paper –
actually, they do. I don’t know for sure where you’re located, but when my daughter and I visited the Dick Blick store in Woodfield Mall (a wee bit north of
Chicago, in the suburbs) this past holiday, I asked the store manager for the
largest Moleskine available — he took me to the very back of the store, and
under other stock, pointed to the A4 size that Bob McD and other have
mentioned here previously. The pages from this would fit comfortably into your
13 x 19 printer bed, and it would be a tight fit ! The cost of this ’skine was
prohibitive to me - but, just so you know they are available, if you ask !
Very cool work — and, hoping to see more of this kind of “techniques
development” or what goes on behind the scenes, looking over your
shoulder, and so on…Nikira 6:55 am on January 25, 2010 | #
I also really like that you sharing techniques and wish we can preserve your post in the Forums under ArtMaterials or something. Should we ask Leo to repost it there?Leave a Comment
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John Speight
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Check out for this incredibly low price. I know Cotman is't the top of the line but who could resist the full palette. I couldn't!
http://artdiscounts.co.uk/product_info.php?cPath=1_7_51&products_id=855&osCsid=61ed5c825e71466d7af85b5e1311cb9e -
Zizochka, its cool.But Cotman is not the best . I have Lukas 48 colors, its mad good,I got it on ASW, I think. But I would kill for Shin Gansai Holbein, 28 c0lors. You cant get in US. Can you get it for me? I'll send you money. If they sell it there.
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Nikira, I agree that Cotman is relatively low grade (lower than Van Gogh as I said earlier), but it is acceptable. Normally I buy it for my daughter and use them sometimes myself.
In Sarajevo we have only Schmincke and Lukas paints + da Vinci brushes which are all too expensive. My last order from Germany was heavily taxed here, so it wouldn't be practical to have me get them for you. However, all those European companies do ship to the States and it is tax free. I suggest you get them from UK if you find them.
With Lukas I have no experience but judging from their gouache I wouldn't rate them as high quality. But then again all that is the matter of personal preference. Mine is (as I said) Rembrandt Talens, but it can change if something better hits me. -
Ziza, look at this beauty http://www.holbein-works.co.jp/english/0419.html
No matter how I try I can't find it where to buy. I bought another Shin Gansai on Ebay, but it is not the same. I have this set more than 20 years old, love it, but can't find it in UK too. May be some sites I don't know? I called Holbein in Japan, and they said they can't sell it to me in USA because of some passing tests or something. -
stremiki
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Posted 2 years ago #Nikira -
I have been following your postings regarding the "shin-gansai" watercolours now for some time. In fact, this may be a reason for my discovering 'skineart and "drawing me in" to the scene.
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Russ Stutler, the fellow in Tokyo who blogs on sketching, 'skines, pens and ink, and techniques sometimes mentions the new, "shin-gansai" and "regular-" or, "traditional-" gansai paints.
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http://www.stutler.cc/other/sketchbook/sketchbook_b_01.html
http://www.stutler.cc/other/sketchbook/sketchbook_25.html
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http://www.sketching.cc/forum/viewtopic.php?p=609&sid=61233d553b8831d8aa594b7d7b642501
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I see that Amazon.co.jp (Amazon, in Japan) - does not make available the Holbein sets.
Like you, I have searched everywhere online here in the US - and have looked in the nearby fine art supply stores such as Dick Blick or college and university art supply shops. No luck in eBay, and elsewhere.
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However, have you seen these sets of "traditional-gansai" in upstate New York, (Rochester) online at FineArtStore.com ?
Also, these are available at Amazon Marketplace (the FineArtStore):
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http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0015KFFU4/
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http://www.amazon.com/Japanese-Gansai-Watercolors-Forest-Green/dp/B0015KID2Q/ref=pd_sim_op_2#moreAboutThisProduct
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http://www.fineartstore.com/Catalog/tabid/365/txtSearch/gansai/List/1/Default.aspx?SortField=UnitCost,UnitCost
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Like you, I am waiting for an opportunity to have a colleague, friend, family member, or myself get to the Tokyo stores.
Exactly what you are looking for should be available in the Japanese domestic fine-art stores.
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I have been tempted to contact Russ Stutler, but so far, have not. Perhaps he would be willing to send one or two
packets of these ?
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http://www.stutler.cc/index.html
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@Stremiki, :-) Its funny, I found SkineArt site because of Russ Stutler. I enjoyed his blog and sketches, discovered water brushes, Yatate, Moleskine, Pilot Namiki fountain pens, saw his stuff on Ebay, thought about asking him to get me Shin Gansai by Holbein, but never did. I got This paints 21 year ago as a present and still use it sometimes. But it is too dry already. All other Shin Gansai completely different paints. By Holbein colors kind of premixed, more dreamy and soft, organic looking. Blue-gray there brings nostalgic feel to every mixture you make.
http://nikiraart.blogspot.com/2010/01/my-shin-gansai-watercolors.html
Here it is. I think I saw it in one of the Japanese sites for sale, but I can't read in Japanese, so didn't know if I can order from them. I'll try to find this site again. I am very happy that both of us love Japanese paints. -
stremiki
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Posted 2 years ago #@Nikira - ok. ok. ok.
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So, as I was reading your posting here, I was looking outdoors at a perfect wintertime
scene -- beautiful, frigid January sky, silhouetted by tall dark green - now black - towering
pine trees, crisp snow cover. Watching and waiting for "Sunset bird."
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I was thinking about what you say, "dreamy and soft" "organic looking" - and feelings
of nostalgia and longing and a bit of regret and remorse started overcoming me.
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It is Russ who is a wee bit responsible -- because now when looking at winter scenes,
I think, "I can do this". Before, I would think, "I _wish_ I could do this."
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So, in your reply, you have now convinced me to email Russ -- let's see what he will say. The results
may be amazing.
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And, I hope you have results in the Japanese web site searching -- do you know that
translate.google.com will handle Japanese <--> English ?
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Example: copy and paste this next line to your web-browser -
translate.google.com/#en|ja|shin-gansai%20watercolor%20Holbein
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See what you think.
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//john
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ジョン
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モールスキンアート
mōrusukin'āto -
stremiki
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Posted 2 years ago #for Nikira:
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Robert Frost - Looking For a Sunset Bird in Winter
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The west was getting out of gold,
The breath of air had died of cold,
When 'shoeing home across the white,
I thought I saw a bird alight.
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In summer when I passed the place
I had to stop and lift my face;
A bird with an angelic gift
Was singing in it sweet and swift.
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No bird was singing in it now.
A single leaf was on a bough,
And that was all there was to see
In going twice around the tree.
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From my advantage on a hill
I judged that such a crystal chill
Was only adding frost to snow
As gilt to gold that wouldn't show.
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A brush had left a crooked stroke
Of what was either cloud or smoke
From north to south across the blue;
A piercing little star was through.
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@Stremiki
This is so beautiful.
Winter scenes not easy to paint, but rewarding because of whites and blues and absence of greens. I should try to paint this poem.
. I found this site. Thank you for translator, word by word I was able to write them an email asking to help me to buy this set.I hope they will answer. This is the site: http://www.yumegazai.com/default.asp?mode=product&pc=hl-n353 I was not able to understand their phone number, but filled out the form with product code. They closed from Friday till Sunday. 送信完了しました。電話サポート：月〜金 AM10:00〜PM17:00 （祝日を除く)
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@Stremiki
I can't believe it! I found person in Tokio who is willing to send me this wonderful paints. If you send me your email, I will send you info. And you can get it from him.
My email is : Nikiraa@gmail.com
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Recently my order from Gerstaecker ( http://www.gerstaecker.de/ ) arrived. Notorious German efficiency and precision were on display as expected). Plenty of goodies at reasonable price, however they ship in a way that is bound to be taxed upon arrival (so I had to pay nearly 40% duties on it). Even though you might have a tiny parcel they will not send it via mail but rather through a shipping company like when you buy a car (with detailed specification including all the unit prices, transportation cost and the total - btw the shipping cost is rather high: about 35 Euro as compared to ten times less that say Rosemary charges for shipping). They said it'd arrive in 10 days and it did (you could adjust your watch).
Here is what was in the package:
1. Brushes (all da Vinci)
-Artissimo quill series 44 size 2 (kolinsky) - great one and possibly the most beautiful there is!
-Voyage series 910 size 2 and 5 - also great telescopic field brushes that protect the belly.
-pastel smearing squirrel brush - another unusual beauty
2. Paints
-Set of WN Artists' 12x5ml tubes - nice, rich and transparent
-Set of 45 Cotman half-pans - haven't tried yet
-Schmincke gold and silver half-pans (beautiful)
3. Sketchbooks
-3 Moleys (you know all about them)
-3 Arches postcard books (outrageously priced)
When order was already shipped I realised I could have bought much better postcard bargain http://www.gerstaecker.de/HahnemuehleMetallboxAquarell-Postkarten-Set-aquarellblocke.htm or here http://www.greatart.co.uk/HAHNEMUEHLEWATERCOLOURPOSTCARDS-water-colour-pads-spirals-blocks.htm
They have an UK site as well ( http://www.greatart.co.uk/About-us--6.html )
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@Ziza, what you do with postcards?
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Nikira, I (and even more my daughter) paint on them and then send them to good friends ("postcards" are fine watercolour paper with address spaces pre-printed on the oposite side). She also paints them and sells to Czech tourists in Gradac (place on Croatian coast). Of course, as a family we loose on that business since just material costs more than what she can achieve on the "market", but she feels fine "earning" her own pocket money! :D
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stremiki
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Posted 2 years ago #@Nikira & Ziza -- there is one woman in Zagreb who has been selling original watercolor drawings
on Hahnemuhle Watercolour Postcard stock.
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Here as an example, where is shown the artwork, and the tin, and front side (the fourth thumbnail).
http://www.etsy.com/view_listing.php?listing_id=33875067
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she is using Daler-Rowney, high-quality paints, in a Japanese style.
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@Ziza - the tins of Hahnemuhle cards are available at Daniel Smith, an online source of high-
quality materials. My daughter and also colleagues shop there (online). However, the price here
is USD $16.90, plus shipping, etc. Rather, I purchase larger sheets of Hahnemuhle, then cut to
postcard size (either large 5 x 7 inch, or smaller 4 x 6 inch), and run the front side with address
template (the horizontal and vertical lines, placeholder for stamp, etc.) through the printer.
however, I enjoy more the Fabriano/Medioevalis -- these come in packs of 100 single cards,
150 x 200 mm. (6 inch by 8 inch). I like the edge effect to tear these to the postcard size.
my opinion is that I get better quality, larger size, and greater number of cards - all for same
price as the tin. And, better control of watercolor and ink washes, fine technical penwork.
we have a company, Strathmore, which makes small packets of watercolor/acrylic/goache
/ink wash cards, along with envelopes. These are in a variety of paper weights, canvas, etc. The
company also makes two sizes of Postcards for watercolorists. I use these for ink wash.
http://www.dickblick.com/categories/cards/watercolorcards/details/
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